SLATER on STYLE

Posted by lewis on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 am.

Every now and then I'll try to post something vaguely journalistic from the cutting room floor.

In 2008 I interviewed Kelly Slater for Water Magazine. Suffice to say, the year proved to be more successful for Slater than Water.

The following conversation didn't make the final edit.

Lewis Samuels: Style is one of the few things where one can look at your career and say “What Slater brought to the table with style, compared to past champions, wasn’t as noteworthy.”

Kelly Slater: Style, like… what do you mean in terms of style? Surfing style, personal style, clothes? (laughs)

Kelly Slater. Photo: Karen/CoveredImages

Kelly Slater. Photo: Karen/CoveredImages

Surfing style...  I think when you can look at the way you approach waves, it’s a distillation of correct body positioning, to achieve a high level of performance.  Are you concerned with how that looks to the viewer, or are you primarily concerned with what you’re achieving on the wave?

I don’t know… I guess for me, I’m more Dane Reynolds than Tom Curren. Or I should say more Martin Potter.  I think style is kind of… I could take a lot of heat for saying something… but someone who has a very deliberate style, it’s almost pretentious.  If you look a certain way just for the sake of looking that way, I think that’s false.  I think that style for me has always been a sort of secondary thing to function.  Is it functional? But they’re equally important really, because if you have the right form the function will happen naturally, and vice versa…  If you put the weight in the right place, the style is going to look good.  It can almost be a moot point…

Martin Potter: Photo: Jeff Hornbaker

Martin Potter: Photo: Jeff Hornbaker

Some surfers actively think about how their surfing looks.  From Peter Townend’s soul arches to what Joel Tudor is doing now… they know they look like that. It’s not like Shane Dorian’s hands – I doubt Shane sat around thinking about how to hold his hands – but those other guys, I’m not so sure.

Yeah, that’s what important to them.  What’s important to me, or like you said, Shane, quite a few guys from our generation, was more about getting ourselves in the quickest, most radical spot where the most power is, being able to use all our strength, that kind of thing.  And obviously, to some people that’s not the most stylish sort of surfing.  But someone like Rob, for instance, especially when he’s riding alternative craft, and doing slow deliberate turns… just fitting them in the right place at the right time… Rob’s a much more stylish surfer than me, or Ross Williams, or Shane Dorian, or Conan, Pat, that whole kind of crew.  In our era, Rob was the Gerry Lopez…  He wasn’t always trying to do the biggest airs, he was pretty much surfing the face of the wave, in the pocket, real crafty, real smoothly.  But if you look back, at some guys, like Terry Fitzgerald for instance, I don’t like it, because it looks like he was trying to look a certain way.  I don’t know – maybe he wasn’t, maybe that was just the way he put his body to go as fast as he could.  But to me it looks like a deliberate attempt at looking a certain way.

Terry Fitzgerald.  Photo: Dan Merkel

Terry Fitzgerald. Photo: Dan Merkel

You could make the same argument in terms of Donavon Frankenreiter now, with his layback cutbacks and soul arch bottom turns.

Well, I mean, look, Donovan doesn’t think he looks like the guy that took off on the wave before him.  He knows that he looks different than everyone else riding a wave.  But for him that’s maybe what’s fun -- it probably is.

Donovan.  Photo: Jack English

Donovan. Photo: Jack English

There was an interview with Curren in Water a few years back, and he said style is just technique.  “When there’s nothing that’s gonna hinder someone from pushing their performance further.”

Over the last twenty years, if you take the best surf shots, the most classic  shots of Curren or Occy, the really good guys doing the best turns captured in their prime moments, and you look, their body is not in some weird tweaked position, it’s not in some difficult place to be,  it’s in a controlled, natural position.  It’s in a really stable, comfortable place where it makes everything look real easy.

Tom Curren. Photo: Tom Servais

Tom Curren. Photo: Tom Servais

I think that’s a really Zen, Bruce Lee way of surfing.  His whole idea was efficiency of movement.  You don’t have to do a lot to get the most power out of something.  You don’t have to be the biggest, thickest leg, strongest guy to throw a lot of spray.  You have to set yourself up right, be in the right place…  But if you have your body is in the right place, the style is gonna look good.

14 Comments

  • mark lehman says:

    great question to ask slater and also very intersesting comment he made about fitzy. i agree with slater that it sucks when someone is trying hard to be stylish. however i must admit that i enjoy watching footage of a.i. and parko more than slater. why? their styles are more pleasing to the eye than slaters. i wonder what fitz will say when he hears kellys comment?

  • PacNW says:

    Enjoyed the read. Keep it coming from the cutting room floor.

  • A-Train says:

    Mike Lossness style seems to fall into the Fitz category. Is it me, or does his style looked really forced on his backside cutbacks? Can’t disagree with Slater.

  • Mark T says:

    As if that got cut from the edit! Got to agree with Slater, especially when I think about Hot-dogging longboarders back in the day who were at least partly about all about trying to show off to the chicks on the beach with their soul arches etc.

    Then again as he kind of hints about Donovans approach to surfing, it really can be kind of fun to put your body in an unnatural, inefficient pose, just for the sake of aesthetics, like instead of proning in on a close-out, going into a tandem stance with your hands by your side as if your a statue of summat!

  • Bodhi says:

    Bruce has the style. No longer on tour, only Kelly and Fanning to watch now. KS supposedly has the “perfect” style, which was better to watch on the late 90’s, now it’s all about power and function, which is interesting. Fanning style is all about speed. Like it too.

  • Slothrop says:

    “Style is an extension of personality”- Ian McEwan

  • dudemanbro says:

    Kelly’s technique is no doubt superior now, but his style has definitely suffered. His arms are all over the place and he seems to have to over correct a lot. But he’s the best surfer in the world and I think sacrificing a little aesthetics in the name of progression is ok for the king.

  • scott says:

    tom curren did have ugly head snaps though.

  • scott says:

    parko has the best overall style on tour now.

    kelly’s frontside snap is the best though.

  • eonegin says:

    Ian McEwan… His style may be scalpel sharp and precise, but he seems to be more chilly and clinical. No heart. Is that what he’s saying about himself? Read Amsterdam or Child in Time. He’s as cold as a corpse in those books.

  • Rhys says:

    I agree with Dudemanbro and Bodhi. Slater’s style was more pleasing in the 90s. As his surfing has become more hi-fi there seems to be more arm waving and overcorrecting/recovering in his turns.

    I wonder if we might see some refinement from him post WCT tour, where how radical he can surf is limited by his age or fitness and so instead he starts refining?

  • Kelly Slater still continues to blow me away with the skills he pulls out.

  • There is obviously a lot for me to study outside of my books. Thanks for the fantastic read on Panama,

  • Travel Guide says:

    I hope you would not mind if I posted a part of this site on my univeristy blog?

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