This topic is a dead horse. If you want to debate the double grab, might as well go to and leave another comment, or check out CJ Hobgood's take on the double grab debate
But looking over the photos from yesterday, it was interesting to consider how the double grab epidemic started... it all comes down to Patient Zero, who's been doing them in heats for years. Why? Because double grabs win heats, and Patient Zero knows how to win heats. The proof is in the pudding. Witness the spreading plague.
Without a doubt the judges have no clue about any different style grab, all they know is if a guy does any sort of air that is more than 1ft out of the lip then the wave is automatically a 7. That’s why they freaked when Dane did 2 and gave him a 10. They need to get a bunch of young competent surfers on the panel who actually know what’s going on or we are going to end up with some wacky scores.
A little off topic- seeing dane surf from out in the line-up changed my view. Watching on-line or videos doesn’t really do his surfing justice. I used to wonder why all the fuss, his surfing seemed good but basically the same as the other pros. Now I know why, He hits angles differently, gets more creative at different places and times too. His laisaiz faire attitude comes with the fact that he knows he will blow it trying weird stuff more times than not, and thus doesn’t get to stressed about it. He’s trying to progress. Judges are rewarding these nuances cuz they are human and get freakin bored seeing the same stuff over and over. Kelly knows how to sell a turn.
YA to funny you wrote that CJ has been writing me off for over 10 years everytime I do a double grab and I would just say my landing % goes up so much when i do them, and he would say that I look like crap
Christian Fletcher must be spinning in his grave! dudemanbro is right, the judges don’t know anything about different grabs, they’re just impressed by height and I’m sure all the ‘CTers know this. So, why would they risk going for a stalefish when the easier double grab gets the score (even when the surfer holds on to the rails until they land)?
Is it just me or does Jake Patterson sound like Stewie from Family Guy?
anyone notice tommy whits hit a sick single grab reverse in his heat and get like a 5.something? he throws that other hand in there and its at least a 7
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