Today the San Francisco Chronicle put up an article about localism: “Surfing - a feeling of freedom many won’t share.”
As C.W. Nevius, a non-surfer, sees it:
“A mini-boom has hit surfing. Midlife-crisis guys, trendy twentysomethings and athletic women looking for a challenge are standing on the beach, watching the breakers and thinking they might like to give riding the waves a try.
There’s just one problem. They have no idea what they are getting into. And San Francisco may be one of the worst places to try it.
There are two major problems with surfing in the city. First, between Ocean Beach and Fort Point, we may have two of the most dangerous patches of water in the country. And second, San Francisco surfers are a clannish, cranky, aggressive group who can make it miserable for newcomers.”
Nevius goes on to describe a few incidents of intimidation and violence, and he gets some choice quotes from the locals.
“‘They’ve definitely made me cry - more than once,’ said Kim Cooper, one of the few female regulars at Fort Point. ‘I’ve learned a lot about men, let’s put it that way. It is basic primate dominance theory.’”
But the best thing about the article is the comments section. 200 and counting so far this morning, many from non-surfers who are using this as an opportunity to vent their frustrations with surfers in general.
Some of my favorite comments:
relaxpeople
Surfers are like all other groups of hoodlums. They just don’t treated as such by the mainstream…
the_shamer
I have never met a surfer who was not a jackass. And the ones here are idiots. They paddle out and sit for hours in the water. because the waves are not that great. Too dumb do go elsewhere.
We laugh at them everytime we eat at the Cliff House.
Greg72
Why not just ban surfing for a month? Pick the month with the best waves. Taking the toy away works great with 5 year olds, which is how they’re acting.
reefcb
I had a bad experience at the beach near the warming hut, where a lot of toddlers and small children play. Two surfers came and were surfing off the beach. With no regard for the small children, and a number of near accidents. I was amazed at how they came and took over the whole shoreline, making it impossible for the parents and children to relax and enjoy this small bit of kid friendly space in San Francisco.
gfoot
I had a roommate who was a surfer. He ripped off allot of stuff
from the place and when caught his excuse was…Well you weren’t
using it. When we had parties his friends and one particular guy
from brazil would treat the girls like….Let’s just say we always
thought we would be reading stories about them in the newspaper.
waclaw
All the unchristian values like selfishness and vitriol displayed by the little whiny elitist godless alternative life stylers.
Obama ain’t helping you out there.
TheKid43
Surfers … a group that regularly cloaks itself behind the phony spiritualism of “The Perfect Wave” and the feeble pretext of concern for the safety of others in order to justify their insular and occasionally violent aggression towards outsiders. On the surface, surfing might appear to be about immersing oneself in a profound understanding of nature and nurturing a life-long sense of comaraderie with your weekend buddies, but, when mother nature ordains that the waves are to become few and far between, surfers are as protectively cliquish as the High Schoolers who sat at the cool table and as prone to aggression as the WWF wrestler who’s driving home after a quick fix at Vick Conte’s office.
jerk_quake
Surf in California is like Mexican cuisine. Its decent in San Francisco, excellent in greater LA, and superb in San Diego. But Baja is where it really shines.
chebornek
Thanks for the article. I was thinking about dropping at least $1000 this summer to start surfing the cold SF waters. Thought it would be a nice, peaceful break from the family. Looks like it’d be cheaper to stay home and fight with my wife, and just as unsatisfying too…
ottosf
How about a little support from the City Attorney, the DA or the Police? Set up a telephoto video camera, have a surfer go out, drop into a couple of sets of waves, and prosecute the assaulter with the videotaped evidence. Do that every now and then, and I’ll bet it gets better, fast. Some local surfers are actually thugs and criminals, not blissed-out ocean peace hippies.
frrsfca
SF is not So Cal! What are these guys protecting? LAME. The water at Ocean beach is ALWAYS FREEZING (esp in summer) and the so called “waves” would make surfers from Zuma down to San Diego - laugh out loud!!!! I’ve heard of people “riding waves” in New York, DC and fresh water rivers which is laughable as well.
skullduggery
Boo Hoo for the surf twits. Ignore these nobs. Do what you want to do. If you want to learn how to surf , surf. These twits sound like the same kinds of douches that laugh at people who wipe out underneath chairlifts. Ignore them and have fun. If any of these phonies messes with you figure out what bicycle or car they ride and pop their tires the next time you see it. If they walked, follow them home and spray paint their garage door with some tasteless art. Noone should have to put up with aggressive goofballs. They don’t OWN any of it and it hasn’t been officially allocated to surfing last I checked. Dweebs. Aggression . What goes always must come around.
cellardoor2
I totally concur with the characterization of surfers as allegedly mellow, nature-tuned people who turn into ugly d&cks (and that goes for the chicks, too) when territory infringement is perceived. I body board, and that seems to keep surfers out of my hair, because none of them want to be within 2 surf breaks from me - I’m waaaay too uncool. Perfect! I don’t want to deal with their drama. So if I’m at Linda Mar or further south, I pick a lone peak and have a nice 3-hour session to myself.
What’s funny is that *some* surfers I have encountered are Peter Pan types, emotionally a bit young. As a girl, once you are out of your wetsuit and into clothes, maybe all dolled up, they clam up - classic nerds stammering all over themselves. That’s probably why many are such bullies in the water - compensating for their lack of confidence on shore.
In the end, I’m there to enjoy the peaceful water, and no one is going to bully me out of that personal experience.
Greg72
Reading all the smug postings from experienced surfers makes me want to head to the parking lot with a sledge hammer.
crimsontime
Some surfers seem to think surfing makes them special people. They are just especially lame. Who really cares if you sit out in cold water all day and ride some waves? I’ve done it and I was bored, and cold, and you spend most of the time waiting. But hey, “it makes you a cool person”. Huh?
pj2147
Nice. Way to discourage people from your sport. Ask your local surf shop if they can stay in business without new customers.
hearth20
in huntington beach no way would you find surfers behaving like ‘idiots being aggressive w/other surfers.’ it was the respect for the ocean and each other exhibited. if a grommet paddled out - it was the big bro’s who’d watch them and often mentor which allowed everyone to share in mother oceans wealth.
principe
The comments from the surfers on this board only serve to underscore the point of the article: surfers are a bunch of whiny white boys with severe entitlement and anger management issues.
rebelgirl44
Well one thing for sure is that I will always be on the offensive when encountering a surfer, and I will never be nice to them…
If they want to cross the parking lot or street then guess what they are gonna have to wait…
If they want respect then they gotta earn it…
Anyone want to throw eggs at them, or maybe some chum in the water?
chickenbacon
I tried surfing when I lived in Santa Cruz, and I was respectful and stayed way out of anyone’s way, i knew the rules, and they still hassled me, called me a kook, and told me to go home “valley”, lol.
aggiecatcher
Can’t really recall meeting any surfers that were really “tuff guys” one on one. I’m sure they are really tuff in their groups though. What a bunch of pathetic losers. I’m sure they are always talking about the “soul surfing” and “becoming one with the earth” too. Get over yourself and good luck to the great whites in the local waters…look for the idiots with the “surf or die” tatts.
luckypierre
According to Matt Warshaw, monitoring to prevent violence will never happen because “It is just the opposite of everything the sport has always been about.” So surfing is about hyper-aggressive, territorial and infantile adults who can’t control their emotions or share the surf. Dudes, you don’t own the ocean, the shore or the surf. Grow the F up.
purkel
i never understood territorial surfers. these guys act like mellow cool guys who are all in touch with nature. but then they act like the biggest jerks when theyre in the water. instead of being a$$holes, they should teach the newer surfers the rules of surfing.
outoftheoven
Just more proof that the behavior of humans, mostly men, is getting more decadent, which will eventually end in anarchy. Get those old punk surfers out of there. The easy going, benevolent californian has evolved into this…what a joke.
razramon
I hope a tsnamui hits one of these days and does a wipe of them all.
Well, after years of being the new “it” sport, public opinion has swung the other way relegating surfing and its practitioners back into the cesspool of hoodlums, petty crooks and pirates. It’s good to be home, gentlemen.
Warshaw put it best — why the hell would anyone waste their time trying to surf Ft. Point when there’s 5+ miles of wide-open, mostly uncrowded, solid beachbreak thumping up and down Ocean Beach?
I lived in SF for a year and the only time I saw any crowd/territorial issues was when it was four feet or under and glassy, which wasn’t very often. Once it gets over eight feet, you generally WANT somebody to surf with.
On the other hand, we should all be congratulating Nevius for convincing another round of potential surfers not to pick up our “sport” — quite a change from the way mainstream media tends to portray surfing.
what the fuck? cant even comment this shit is rediculous.
I have to admit these comments nailed it fricken perfectly.
I got hurt and haven’t surfed in months.
I def miss the surf but not all the fuckery described by all the non surfing kooks.
this world sucks on all levels, why would surfing be any exception?
I can just picture Lewis and his mentor Warshaw sipping coffee at Sloat st. reading the Chronicle together. I swear I am f-ing going to puke right now.
P.S. Is there good fishing and golf in San Francisco?
Hahahaha! Thats is funny, I gotta admit half of what they say is pretty accurate. Surfing is contaminated with more than a few idiots whose visions of stature far outweigh thier talent as surfers or as human beings. That being said it only takes one surfer to be an asshole and make the rest of us look the same, but hey I dont give a shit that just means less people picking up surfing hurray!
Don’t worry we will be regulating the comments section of the Chronicle as soon as we have a 3-2 majority on the board of the F.C.C. which will be in about 3 months.
Get in the way, get dead.
Consider it done Nancy. ::mwah::
“Get out of the water, Barney!”
Love those comments from Chronicle readers. So glad I don’t live in the Bay Area anymore. OB goes mental when it’s on and those “Midlife-crisis guys, trendy twentysomethings and athletic women” are sitting in the parking lot wondering how the fuck they are going to get to the peak. Let them think what they will and stay home, don’t surf, its sucks! Oh yeah, and the dude that wears the helmet & web gloves at Ft. Pt. is the epitome of DOUCHE!
surfers are total assholes. i hope they all die terrible and untimely deaths as a result of their childish obsession with navigating pointed sticks through tubes.
get off my beach!
Truth is that surfing is way too individualistic. the only reason you can stand the crowd is because you learned how to stay out of each others way. I also think surfing is stylish as it is visual. You start surfing because it looks pretty but you don’t really know until you are hooked on it. Surfing heals my physical and emotional wounds, cures my asthma and fills me up with energy and love. Everyone around me benefits from this, just stay away from my beach, please.
This ongoing debate between the seemingly contradictory views of surfing as both a “mellow nature-seeking past-time” and competitive territorial engagement is nothing new. From its inception in Hawaii as exclusive sport of kings, surfing has always carried with it the undercurrents of nationalism and competition, now highlighted by both the sport’s current popularity surge and easier access through recent technological and user-friendly advances (including but not limited to improved forecasting, the advent of novice equipment such as soft-tops and stand-up paddleboards, surf camps, etc.)
What many apparently fail to realize is that the idyllic ’surfer lifestyle’ foisted upon the general American media by The Endless Summer has never rang true, at least not within the actual minority who engage in surfing on a day-to-day basis. While such tranquil exploits like those of Dan Brown and company do indeed apply to surfing to an extent, they are minority views that mask the true underpinnings of a culture that from the beginning has had very little to do with whatever values the mainstream public would like to categorize surfing under. Whether it be the heavily localized breaks of the 1970’s Santa Cruz scene or the foundation of Da Hui O He’e Nalu on the North Shore in the 80’s, waves and the surfers who compete for them has and will continue to be jealously guarded resources, unrepentant (and uncaring) to the views of pundits who are not similarly involved.
While the views of casual and part-time surfers regarding such competition are understandable, so too is the fact that the divide between mainstream media and true surf culture is not easily reconciled. Indeed, the issue at hand comes to a head today mainly because of the increased exposure to a lifestyle not fully understood by those who have not studied its deeply non-inclusive roots. The fact that surfing’s popularity has expanded beyond a hardcore wave-seeking base to a pasttime or outlet for physical activity is a direct consequence of the clash of opposing cultures we now see in the water.
Both sides must realize that the conflict between what the general public wishes surfing values to be and the actuality of what surfing is will eventually divide the issue, as evidenced by the comments posted in the blog. Armchair and weekend-only surfers will be forced to either come to grips with attitudes that were founded in the sport’s early days or resign themselves to writing pithy comments on internet backrooms in hopes of finding sympathy among their equally minded compatriots. Those who have dedicated themselves to the pursuit of wave riding must acknowledge that the sport has been co-opted by the very companies who have helped push the limits of surfing regarding advances in equipment technologies, thus diluting both the limited oceanic resources we covet and the overall skill level of the lineup. For every new stretchy boardshort or trendy piece of surfbrand clothing comes another Johnny-come-lately fitness buff who has decided that he/she must now pursue surfing as a viable means of alternative recreation, perpetuating the cycle while deepening the ideological gap.
There is only so much that spreading blame around can accomplish; I blame myself for not sharpening the tip of my board to electron-splitting severity and skewering each and every person I see out in the water who could have written one of the comments posted above into an uninformed shark-shish-kabob. I bid you all good day, and good luck.
guys should pee sitting down
Most of you probably don’t know this, but I actually own the ocean. No, not just my home, and the beach in front of it; the entire ocean. Poseidon’s playground. It’s true. I bought and paid for that shit back when I sold the state of Louisiana to those French pricks; before they gave it back to the Yanks.
Furthermore, like my underwear, my mortgage is bulletproof. I’m not liable for any sunken ships, shark bites, or the occasional sea lion caught raping a water-wing.
So, you’re all just guests on my private property.
Now, get the fuck out, before a place my boot uponst your taint!
@lazer
what big surf company do you work for again? ‘Bong?
Dear Lazer,
Next time can we get the Readers Digest condensed version of your comment. I hate long stories.
P.S. This is not Mark commenting under the alias of the author of War and Peace. And that wasn’t Mark posing as Nancy Pelosi earlier either. So quit thinking that.
that lazer comment gave me a headache just scrolling past it, fuckin shit. people, especially americans, think their entitled to everything, they don’t wanna earn nuthin. you’re not gonna roll onto an inner city basketball court and start whining when you get hassled.
I’m with Tolstoy bro. I am going to print Lazer’s last comment and use it to read so I can put myself to sleep on the next 10 hour flight from Hawaii to Birmingham.
P.S.
Hey Lewis how far do you think Parko will make it in Tahiti? How about A.I.? Slater? The Goods?
Give us a preview!
I like san Francisco. It is a picturesque city with great surf and breathtaking scenary.
The only problems with san Francisco are:
#1: The sick left wing kooks who have no respect for the constitution.
#2: The gay population that pushes themselves and their views on all of us regular, normal people.
#3: Asshole locals who stink eye everyone they don’t recognize. Of course these people usually belong to groups #1 and #2 as well.
#4: Lewis Samuels.
#5: Nancy Pelosi.
Besides all of that I think San francisco is a great place.
@Lazer ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
the best comment was the one claiming the surf in L.A is excellent, love it.
Three Californian surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.
One of them said, “I’m the best surgeon in California. In my favorite case, a concert pianist lost several fingers in an accident, I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England.”
The second surgeon said, “That’s nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident, I reattached them and two years later he won a gold medal in track and field events at the Olympics.”
The third surgeon said, “You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a woman was high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the woman’s hair and the horse’s ass I was able to put them together and now she’s Speaker of the House.”
The word fuckery has gone way too far. Everyone, please stop saying fuckery it’s worse than the the swine flu. Anderson Cooper said fuckery on the news last night, so please stop.
Thank you and god bless.
You pig-fucking pansies wouldn’t know priceless commentary if I let the lot of you slobber on my 24-karat, diamond-encrusted, 3 and-a-half foot long King Kong Dong. You should be grateful for the opportunity to open your unworthy pie-holes and receive my offering of platinum-rich fecal matter to quench your stupidity.
I’m quoting Lil’ Wayne, loosely, but you get the picture; I’m a 400 lb. sumo wrestler after an all-you-can -eat Mexican buffet, and you all are my toilet.
“in huntington beach no way would you find surfers behaving like ‘idiots being aggressive w/other surfers.’ it was the respect for the ocean and each other exhibited. if a grommet paddled out - it was the big bro’s who’d watch them and often mentor which allowed everyone to share in mother oceans wealth.”
Actually Lewis is cool. I don’t know why I put you on that list bro.
P.S. COTW can be won more than once right?
Mudo!!! COTW!!!
I just surfed OB at Judah - it was fun and I was the only one out. Love listening to people bitch about nothing that is remotely true.
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I just surfed OB at Judah - it was fun and I was the only one out. Love listening to people bitch about nothing that isn’t remotely true.
HA… EDIT ^^^^
I just surfed OB at Judah - it was fun and I was the only one out. Love listening to people bitch about things that aren’t remotely true.
Sorry, I let my politics cloud my posting judgment. That will not happen again I promise you. Wait a second, the fact that they read the Chronicle (and post comments!!!!!!!) would suggest that they should agree with a protectionist model of what limited resources we here hold near and dear to our hearts. Waves should be like carbon credits, you should have to save up, pay your dues and understand the system before you get yours.
Name change is on hold…
#2: The gay population that pushes themselves and their views on all of us regular, normal people.
Seriously Mark, do gay people push their views on you? Coming from a Christian that is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black don’t you think.
Besides, what views might you be referring to? Something ludicrous and in your face…like equal rights? If you are confident in your own beliefs and convictions, there is no reason to be threatened by others, least of all gay people. Remember that separation of church and state is a major part of that constitution that us “sick left wing kooks” have no respect for. You are too good for that shit, let the fags and weirdos live in peace.
S.F. surfers are just a bunch of chip riding, faggot, Kelly wannabes anyway.
Why would anyone - except lazzzzer - want to surf there…?
I once slept with a Seahorse.
Does that make me gay or just not-normal?
And judging by the remnants in my porcelain throne… I AM regular.
Sorry MuckFark. I have been stressin over dough and venting on PostSurf.
However you must admit that Perez Hilton is a FREAK! The way he handled Miss California was a JOKE!!! If I was gay I would have been PISSED that someone like that is representing me and my peeps.
What do you think of Perez Hilton?
In crowded lineups, surfers can get on one another’s nerves rather quickly, and crowded spots with small takeoff zones only exacerbate the issue.
I have no problem drawing the line between friendly competition and angry old men, but others who complain the loudest are most likely the ones that are least able to compete….
Dear Mudo,
You let your politics cloud your POSTING judgement? Dude YOU don’t post on here.This is Lewis’s BLOG. HE posts. You can only COMMENT on Lewis’s POSTS as well as the COMMENTS of other COMMENTATORS.
Hey Lewis can we get a rulebook for Mudo please?
Perez Hilton. Are you fucking kidding? That’s what happens when too much cock gobbling ruptures the soft tissue around the brain stem.
I’m going to have to agree with Mudo on that one.
Ah yes, my mistake. Please replace “posting” with “commenting”. Wow you must really be broke huh?
the perez hilton post (shit, I meant comment) that is.
Sorry about the personal attack. Can we be friends? Maybe share a wave or something?
only been to sf once and got sloth street in ob super fun 4 foot and sunny kinda peaking like blacks with shitloads of people out and never got vibed. had a great time and everyone seemed respectful to me. the scene in ob seems fine to me.
Not all breaks are created equal and niether are surfers. If you get bummed out by all the “mean” people at crowded spots, go find your own peak - you’ll get every wave you want. Your other option is to stop being a pussy.
also the people in pacifica were real nice too not really getting all this bullshit from those comments
Hey guys there’s a good site that just launched you will probably love.
likebitchin.com
Derek Rielly and Charlie Smith are some funny fuckers. Check it out.
I’m moving to LA and buying a whole quiver of new longboards cuz I heard the surf is better down there and the locals are nicer. Read about it in the SF chronicle today…
Hilarious post Lewis, great newspaper article. Just got curious about what gfoot said about a brazzo dude:
“…one particular guy from brazil would treat the girls like…. Let’s just say we always thought we would be reading stories about them in the newspaper.”
What the hell he’s trying to say here?
Yo Mark, good call on the ongoing comp at chopes, double you see tea crap
Sorry, the about-to-start-comp
Agreed, the comments on the surf in LA are the kicker of the comments. Let’s review LA’s surf scene:
Malibu (the city/ region) is good about 30 days a year tops. The place has way more whiny, rich, rail-bogging pricks than anywhere in CA and probably the world, who try to keep the spot in front of their dad’s mansion safe from people who have actual jobs. Malibu point is often surfable, but - and few people know this - it is a parallel universe: it is the best wave in LA, but 2nd and 3rd “points” are closeouts, and only the worst surfers in the water get waves at first point since they chirp and hassle the most.
Santa Monica and Venice represent 6-8 miles of closeouts with the exception of 3-4 days a year. Venice is localized, but kind of like a gang in Victorville, what the hell are the protecting?
The South Bay is extremely crowded and only really surfable during one short window per swell, given wind and tide. Also a closeout the vast majority of the time.
PV is Malibu’s southern cousin, alike in almost all ways.
Beng, now give us the OC and SD run down…
Strange how Mark knows street corners and coffee shops in the Gay Ghetto of SF? He has a firm grasp on Tarzana and assumes costa rica means funboarding. Projection anyone? But you have to love PostMark chastising Mudo for the same play on semantics that got him into hot water a while ago. He’s learning!
Beng Bong. “Let’s review the LA scene”. Maybe Lewis can give you Surflie’s phone number, they’re looking for writers and your comprehensive observations are perfect for their aesthetic.
“If I was gay, I’d be pissed that somone like that is representing me and my peeps” There you got it, another Comment of the Weak! En Fuego, Marcus.
I tried Lazer, but reading your novel put me to sleep. Will you publish the cliff notes?
Fire is raging again…….
One of the worst things a person can do is buy a home adjacent to a good surf break.
Now, can we get back to slagging on Donavon Frankfurter?
He, along with his poor kids, are made for San Francisco.
http://www.zombietime.com/
Jimmicane that link that posted totally ripped off the design of postsurf. IS copying the Copying a form of flattery? hmmm….
The parking lot at Sloat is the gay getto? I did not know that. You misunderstood me Mike because you have probably never surfed Ocean Beach. Don’t sweat it bro, Zuma is just as good.
I apologize for my mean jabs lately. I have a lot on my mind. It seems like it is time to move on and haul the final kid in the roost to somewhere else for her last 7 years of school. I feel confined and closed in right now. When I see how life is in the South I am jealous but at the same time I realistically cannot give up surfing. If Bama had surf!!!!
What to do? S.F./S.C. region is attractive with deep beauty and world class surf. Also super high cost of living and long commutes for waves or work as well as not that friendly people ( sorry, truth hurts ). Plus after my last comment about S.F. there is probably a warrant for my arrest.
S,D,/ La Jolla region is fairly warm with reef breaks galore and plenty of cold beers waiting in the Lot at Windansea. But also long waits between significant swells and traffic on the roads plus the escape valve on Northern Mex seems sketchy at the moment.
What should I do Lewis? Am I welcome in Ocean Beach? Can you get me some work? I can try to change a little if I have to. I might even be willing to join a union.
Can you help me?
SF,
I don’t think it was a direct rip off of Postsurf. I bet if you scoured the internet you would find a whole slew of blogs that look similar because there’s most likely a mold from whoever sells these fucken things. I doubt Lewis is a website designer. I don’t know. Maybe he is?
The writing on likebitchin.com is quite different than on here though. It’s not focused much on surfing, but it does have some. Another up-and-coming good one is superspectacularadventures.com (intended for east coast surfers).
Boooo hooooo….Grumpy Locals, Grumpy non-locals, Grumpy Non-surfers, Grumpy bloggers. Just remember the bridge is for jumping too ;-o
There are a couple of the Fort Point Crew who are horrible people…I mean grumpy beyond grumpy. It’s got a strange tinge of homophobic homoerotisism too. But other days you see nothing but smiles and easy lefts.
Fort pt. blows goats
Funny thing is how shitty fort point is. Kyle gives the clue….. easy lefts.
Mark, California is the land of diminishing returns. San Diego County is poster child for development unregulated…. oh wait, you’re all about deregulation. Did you call Rush and tell him that you might join a union? Stay put, everyone is fucked and the bottom is a long way off. Be poor in paradise.
Whats worse Fort pt. or Bobo
Say, if you like ol Louie’s awesome website here, you’ll die for likebitchin.com!
Come in and look around.
BTW, Island Bammie
Our current collective crisis is the intended result of your political affiliations 30 year agenda.
That’s why the rest of us are angry at Christian Republicans….. you allowed the devil a foot hold.
Wealth extraction and the rape of the middle class was the plan, trickle down economics the conduit to massive redistribution of assets.
And credit was the trap.
Thank you, Military Industrial Complex, Mainstream Media, Big Pharma, Oil, “Insurance” and most importantly, the “Financial Industry”.
In Money we do trust. Thanks Christianity for rolling over for YOUR false God.
Say, if you like ol likebitchin.com, you’ll love meatspin.com.
You spin me right round baby! Right round!
@Lazer
Dude, get a job man. How long did it take you to compose and write that lengthy bull?? I lost a lengthy toss of my cock forever reading that shit….oh the tragedy.
@ trauzersnake
If you love talking about your penis in every comment, you’ll love meatspin.com!
Derek Rielly and Charlie Smith are some funny fuckers. Check it out. They love their work!
You spin me right round baby! Right round!
Oh, and fuck you Mark. You’re not the boss of me you cranky old fuck.
Is Peter Perfect Alex Knost?
Metrosexual Homosexual turning fat chicks business’ into fat chicks business’ with lipstick?
Yeah, Peter Perfect.
@PP (aka A. Knost)
My colossal meatwhistle will put their fallatiating?? enterprise straight out of business.
@Mike
You clearly didn’t read my Alex Knost surfing critique comment, but then, judging by your writing, you’re getting your toothless whore to read posts out to you because you are illiterate and composing your brilliant prose while deciding whether there really are rats trying to get out of that sore that you keep itching, picking and scratching at. Damn Ice! You crystal wonder.
Oh, and by toothless whore, I mean your mother.
Stick to bitch-slapping morose Mark.
loudmouth dick head surfers will save surfing. god bless them.
I have the same problem with my pants zipper that Donovon does with the top buttons of his shirts.
Because my junk is huge.
Just wanted to add that last part.
In case you didn’t get it.
That is all.
hey, isn’t peter another name for a meatwhistle?….my proposturously giant peter.
My junk’s so big, I use the San Onofre reactors as a cod piece. And it wrestles bears in the winter while I’m sleeping.
Yes, it’s true. I do have a perfect peter. Hence the fucking name. You’re a little slow.
Any more questions, trauzersnake, before your nurse comes around again? Sounds like it’s night-night time for penispants.
My junk is so long that sometimes, when I wake up with morning wood, it’s wrapped clear around my waist and is staring me right in the face.
I look like a human engagement ring.
Instead of wood, my junk is so hard that I wake up with morning steel.
Actually, it’s the size of a tic-tac. It looks like a burnt peanut in a Japanese trash can full of Brazillian wax strips.
BRs jokes are so old, cavemen used to draw them as pictures in the dirt.
yes, yes. It is night-night time for peterpants. Please excuse me, but I’ve gotta pitch this tent before my nurse gets here.
No wonder Donnie’s wife Petra moved to Kauai to design those kiddie hippie trousers. It’s troll city everywhere you look.
The inspiration must be unmanageable.
Bob Dobb is so drunk he posted on the wrong topic.
@trauzersnake. Your jokes are so old Moses scratched them out on the back of the ten commandments.
PeterPerfect knows he has passed beyond the portal of youth. Rather than blasting a urinal with an inch thick gout of high psi urine and spattering himself with “feedback,” you’ll find him shutting the toilet door and secretly sitting down to piddle a stream powered only by the faint pull of gravity; the sad little drops not even touching one another.
Surfers suck.
BR: Bravo! Tis good that you are following that writers edict to ‘only write about what you know’.
Don’t panic, the prostate might only be enlarged. It might not be cancer. Good luck old son and keep us posted on the outcome. Don’t be one of those guys who keeps putting off going to the doctor and hoping it will get better!
PS: When you fill out those forms at the surgery, don’t be tempted, when confronted with the ‘Sex: M/F’ question, to write ‘often’. They might have seen that joke too.
Judging by his quote in that article, Bad Vibe Bob must be going soft.
PeterPerfect’s so square, the only Tool album she owns is Coldplay.
PeterPerfect’s so square, her vagina looks like a mailbox.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah. I suppose it is my bad for expecting anything other than my overblown sense of superiority here at PostSurf. Not that it isn’t deserved, mind you. But blah blah blah blah blah.
By the way, two of the bottles I bought yesterday were scotch, two rye, and three bourbon. Different tastes for different times.
And another thing! I’m about as sophisticated as Mark’s mom is attractive. Besides, getting blind drunk off fine scotch seems wrong. And fuck you for being a wine cooler kinda dude. That stuff takes like used bandaids, and I envy you for it.
I believe I should have put an @PeterPerfect in front of that last diatribe.
However, I am too drunk to know for sure.
High five!
which douchebag hipster wrote this
So… who’s this dillweed calling out Coldplay as a bunch of tools??
And yo, rising postage best means more bread fo’ my bitches’ hi-priced boxes. Start forkin’ it ovah chumps.
People get so caught up in being politically correct in SF that they forget a few things in life, number one being, live it, and make sure its your own and not somebody else’s. I’m actually baffled at the amount of hatred towards surfers, I never knew, and I’ve been one for 25 years. Anyways I gotta go because I’m way too cool for blogging plus I need to go commit some crimes, or maybe get my “hoodlum” tattoo finished across my belly.
Lewis, if you’re going to make anything of this site (or print venture), you may consider actually addressing the surf. For example, SL recently posted up a new video of some hideous death pit in W Oz. It’s not like your readers are going to be rushing off to experience getting knee-capped anytime soon, so why not address the who, what & why behind this wave?
Perfect Peter, If I did do Ice, I may be able to stay awake late enough to join the fun. Unfortunately, I pass out right after the early bird special at the diner. Then my tootless whore services me, I pop 6 cans of coors and it’s pretty much over by 8:30.
But it’s fun waking up to all the mayhem, keep it up boys…….
I can’t believe the mob mentality of some of these comments. Is this not a free country where people can choose what they would like to do with their free time? Prosecuting surfers is an absolutely rediculous proposition. It is true California in general is full of a lot of a-hole surfers, but to label the entire population of surfers as hoodlums, etc. is nothing short of ignorant. There are millions of people worldwide that surf so keep that in mind. Also, perhaps that California super aggro surfer mentaility is simply a necessary reaction to the few dip shits that disregard all surfing etiquette, like dropping in on others, and use the crowds as an excuse. Also, if you dont know what the hell you are doing, do NOT go charging the main peak at a good break. Thats asking for trouble from these guys. The ocean is for everyone to enjoy so dont let some dip shits scare you off.
Very true, lots of different people do surf, for example
I…AM AN F.B.I. AGENT!!….ain’t it radical.
Question for Mike. Regardless of what has happened in the past 30 years, what is your opinion of the government having ownership of banks, auto manufacturers etc.? How do you feel about the U.A.W.?
I know this is a surf site. I apologize for bringing this up but our sport has a lot to do with freedom and it seems that soon we will not be so free anymore.
And Mike please don’t give me an Oberanswer. That is when you blame every problem we have now as well as every problem Obama EVER faces in the future on George Bush. I want to know what YOU THINK about the government controlling everything.
P.S. Mike what do you think Obama should do if the Taliban starts making serious headway in Pakistan? Be careful now! Before you speak you might want to think back to all the comments you made about Bush and Cheney and Iraq! You know the ones about meddling in other countries affairs etc. etc.
Oh yeah one more thing. I have decided to settle down in YOUR area. Sarlo was over here surfing Sunset on Monday and he told me I would love 3rd point and that I could maybe sell commercial real estate once the market comes back. You know, as soon as the 876 billion dollar stimulas bill that had to be signed IMMEDIATELY OR WE ARE ALL DOOMED ( of which around 30 billion has been spent the first 2 months! ) kicks in and it is happy days again in california.
I hear Blashemy Rottmouth is working on a few “shovel ready projects”. In other words he needs a shovel to handle all of the SHIT that pours out of his MOUTH every night around 11 pm pacific time.
B. Rot.! Dude! You seriously need to look into a 12 step program for your drinking and maybe one for language as well. It seems as if, on cue, 11 p.m. rolls around and you are SPEWING GARBAGE. This site is supposed to be about surfing, surfing contests,analysis of pro surfers and occasional politics. We are tired of your bullshit bro!!!
P.S. My mom is actually a very attractive lady as well as a good person. I am not the spawn of her and Blashemy Rottmouth.
Mark said:
“This site is supposed to be about surfing, surfing contests,analysis of pro surfers and occasional politics.”
Blasphemy Rottmouth says:
It’s nice to know that you’re following in Hugo Chavez’s footsteps and dictating to us peasants what Lewis Samuel’s site is about.
Hey Steepers,
Glad you had fun at “sloth” st. I hear B.Rot. rules Sloth.
I told you Lewis Samuels was Blasphemy Rottmouth! Now I have a face to put to the name so after the next comment about my mom ” someone” might not look quite so pretty as they get 20 second pits at Desert Point.
P.S. Just kidding Lewis. I am a dove not a hawk.
Who are Lazer and Blasphemy? You guys are complete dorks, writing your “poetic” rants on a friggin’ surf blog. You probably wear web gloves and helmets in the water. SUPers for sure. True “watermen”. See you at Linda Mar, bra.
First of all, I’m soooo insulted by Shreddy. He wouldn’t know the first thing about my reputation as the heaviest boogie boarder in Corpus Christi. And who needs gloves when I was born with webbed feet and a prehensile tail?
Second, surfing is poetry in motion. My rants are poetry with lotion.
Ya dig?
And PeterBentBanana is so Perfect, that he does not realize this is a comment section, where Lewis even tells us, no holds barred. No surf celebrity off limits.
Earth to Donnie, there are reason they don’t continue to make those boards anymore.
Oh snap PP! My condolences on your gravity problem.
@Mark,
the implications of you attempting to narrow the margins of this comment board are filling me with more dread than watching the Obama Deception after downing a handful of gullible pills.
This has to be the best comment….
“All the unchristian values like selfishness and vitriol displayed by the little whiny elitist godless alternative life stylers.”
Agreed, surfing is a very selfish pursuit. You can’t share it with others aside from razing your friends (or fellow commentators) that you surfed perfect, overhead Rockys yesterday.
That is all.
Ohh mann! So bummed. My bro called me up and said I won comment of the week. Oh well, I guess I’ll go join the angry, irrational mob that’s coming to burn you all. Burn I tell you! Burnn!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, and Bobb Dobb is a total fucking tool. We’re coming for him first.
I just happened upon this site. Can you guys tell me how I can join Da Hui?
TOO FUNNY!
Wow Mark.
Government should allow the banks (business’) to fail. Obviously, Lehman was allowed to fail. The false God, Money, is everyone’s enemy…. and best friend.
The UAW formed as a reaction to Money’s best interest. Human, it is flawed. But is more “Christian” than money. Problem is, when you allocate entitlement, you accept the sloth. Mixed bag, as most things in life, but human. Money is not.
Technically, small government and fiscal responsibility is everyone’s best interest. Mark, your party hijacked the semantics of advantage, without any inclination to govern. What you were sold, against your own best interest, is a product of ignorance. Don’t project.
The Taliban is in Paki. Why is Iran chastised for wanting nuclear capability when it is surrounded by nuclear equipped nations….. a volatile military Paki as one? Why wouldn’t they, you tell me Bammy. The region is a spiders web….. but the solution has existed for decades.
Eliminate our need for oil ( money) and they become bankrupt of influence. Literally. Desert.
Who wants us addicted to Oil? The Corps that have offshore accounts to avoid tax liability. The same taxes that WE pay at the pump. Wake up sheep…. Christians.
Obama is failing to understand that WE voted Change, not incremental or partison. I was given a choice between Coke and Battery Acid…… when I wanted Orange Juice.
Your real estate industry was a perfectly manufactured house of cards, that only fell down on the morons signing the loans. Then to protect those loans, the absent government panicked. Once again, in no humans best interest and Money wins again.
Surf has been sick and the flames keep blowing.
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Sad to here about the fires Mike. That part of the world is beautiful.
When I was a teenager we would drive down to Santa Barbara during huge swells. I have surfed Rincon, Hammonds Reef, The Ranch etc. etc. all under optimum conditions. Once we drove down during a HUGE south swell and caught Malibu at a solid 6 to 7 foot. I can still smell the early morning sage and feel the chatter of my 6′10″ Crouteau as I flew across the manicured walls of 2nd point. The essence of California surfing.
I cannot compete with you when it comes to serious, political discussions. You win. I am just a surfer who wants to ride some waves in peace.
Aloha Mike,
Mark
P.S.
I am not in real estate. And I am not in the Republican Party. You assume too much.
I simply, like many millions of people all over America, feel that we are being sold something that isn’t what they say it is. That is all.
Hello!
My name is Blasphemy Rottmouth.
Mark and Mike both love sucking their cocks.
And by ’sucking their cocks,’ I mean surfing and enjoying posting meaningless comments on this blog.
And I’m okay with this.
For I too, am a retard.
Thank you for letting me share.
Sincerely,
Blasphemy Underbite Magnum Dealer Abrahambone Rottmouth.
I read you BR.
The fires have everyone bummed, early May and the seasons full swing. Not a good sign.
The joke is that we’ve had the first extended run of surf in 2 years during the winds?????
Heard you got the same swell, earlier this week Mark.
Have a good weekend boys.
Americans….damn you’re a bunch of fools, getting aggro over crap waves and then, even worse, the comments! haha, are people really that stupid?
My favourite has gotta be:
“Well, after years of being the new “it” sport, public opinion has swung the other way relegating surfing and its practitioners back into the cesspool of hoodlums, petty crooks and pirates.”
Classic.
Sorry I don’t mean to come across as “anti-american” but I can’t imagine comments (and behaviour) like this anywhere else. Especially over such average waves.
biggest joke of a story. Mainstream clowns reporting on things they know nothing about. I’ve surfed OB for the past eight years - in all kinds of conditions. Never encountered one bit of localism anywhere on the Beach. Guys keep to themselves - and others share the experience. Six miles of beach or so - you can find a peak to yourself. The Avenues, Sloat, Kelly’s get crowded on the good days. There is still plenty of room to roam. This sort of irresponsible journalism is ignorance at it’s finest - much like most of the mainstream media in the United States. Reports are the parasites that can’t get jobs in the real world.
Sorry for the huge review, but I’m really loving the new Zune, and hope this, as well as the excellent reviews some other people have written, will help you decide if it’s the right choice for you.
Thank you guys, I love this place, you have put a lot of work into it as I see, awesome… good work mods.
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I’ve had depression since I got into a bad relationship in my first year of university. The guy was my first serious boyfriend but he didn’t care very much about me, and cheated on me (quite openly). I finally saw the light and finished with him when he grabbed me by the neck during an argument and threw me out of his bedroom door.
Have you ever considered adding more videos to your blog posts to keep the readers more entertained? I mean I just read through the entire article of yours and it was quite good but since I’m more of a visual learner,I found that to be more helpful well let me know how it turns out!
Hrmm that was weird, my comment got eaten. Anyway I wanted to say that it’s nice to know that someone else also mentioned this as I had trouble finding the same info elsewhere. This was the first place that told me the answer. Thanks.