ECHO BEACH: Revisionist History

Posted by lewis on May 12, 2009 at 11:05 am.

As Winston Churchill reportedly said, "History is written by the victors."

Such is the case with Echo Beach, a seemingly self-congratulatory documentary in which a group of ex-pro surfers, turned surf industry insiders, give themselves a pat on the back for being tremendously cool and good-looking rippers back in the 80s.

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Surfermag just ran an article by Matt Patterson about the premiere of Echo Beach:

"The original sense of entrepreneurship and high-performance surfing that was happening at that time was thoroughly embodied in four central characters—Danny Kwock, Preston Murray, John Gothard, and Echo Beach creator Jeff Parker all were off-beat pro surfers who never surfed contests but blazed the trail that we all know now as the life of a “photo pro.” These early pioneers struck gold by expressing the creativity through bright wetsuits, loud music, and punk rock attitude in the face of the black-wetsuit-clear-board surf establishment of the time. All four members eventually graced the cover of the magazines, and they all went on to make profound marks on the surf industry."

Compare the 2009 interpretation above to Matt George's 1989 SurferMag take on the Echo Beach crew:

"1980... With neon-airbrushed boards and matching trunks, Locals Danny Kwock, Preston Murray, Jeff Parker and others are wildly touted as the next wave to bust down the door.  Fat chance, as it turns out. Basically, everyone's act fell apart anywhere outside Newport.  Preston Murray, looking back: 'Free Ride had a major influence in the whole thing. We wanted to be surf stars. We were just kids...all the hype was just a spontaneous reaction by the media.'"

Argh! So confused - who should I believe? Should I still credit MR, Curren, Carrol and Occy as being the best 80s surfers?

Or should I listen to the narrator of Echo Beach (Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray) and worship Jeff Parker and John Gothard instead?

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Honestly, I haven't seen Echo Beach, so I'm still trying to figure out whether these guys are worth celebrating.  Jeff Parker, who directed this documentary about himself and his friends, explained his own importance as follows:

"Our relationship to Quiksilver built the foundation for what has become the relationship between most all of the sponsored surfers out there and the companies. We showed Quik how to use influential young kids in the magazines and they showed everyone else. It’s still happening all over the world today, and it’s a big business."

OK, I'm sort of getting it now.  The Echo Beach crew taught the brands that they didn't need to sponsor and support the best surfers on earth.  Instead, they could simply sponsor and support the best groms in Newport.  Or, more specifically, the "most influential" groms within a 100-yard stretch of Newport.

So without the Echo Beach Crew, I suppose Alex Knost would not be a surf star. Case closed.

110 Comments

  • Stu says:

    enough of this. Is Occy gay or not? Not that there’s anything wrong with that (although, I guess some posters here may be forced to change their opinion of him because God says so). Dig, Lewis, dig!

  • Stu says:

    btw, in an effort to keep things legal and proper, let me add a disclaimer that I in no way have any facts to support the claim (that I heard recently from someone with no particular knowledge of anything) that Mr. Occy is in fact gay.

    Speaking of which, does the above story finally explain the creation of guys like “Punker Pat”, who, as far as I can tell, is the best kid to ever come out of NB?

  • Average Guy says:

    What a joke these comments are! All of these self righteous supposed surfers spouting smack from behind their computer screens where no one can see them. I am disgusted by what the sport of kings has become.

    Who cares about Echo Beach or some punk that grew up at Pipeline? I want to hear about the average everyday surfer who works his ass off 50 hours a week and appreciates getting a couple of fun waves before the sun goes down.

    I would also like to see Lewis write something positive for a change. Something about the unsung heroes of the sport like Colin Smith from San Diego or Mike Newling from Oz. How about the Sutton brothers from Santa Cruz or 50 plus year old Phantoms charger and board shaper extraordinaire Chuck Andrus from Oahu.

    Surfing is a beautiful, pristine and spiritual activity that we are all extremely fortunate to have discovered. Life is too short to focus on punks and fakers. Funny how as soon as the money got big the beauty started to fade.

    You are too talented to muddle in the dirt Lewis. You have a special gift. Use it.

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    Irony:

    This is the Sport of Kings!!!!!!!!

    But,

    “I want to hear about the average everyday surfer who works his ass off 50 hours a week and appreciates getting a couple of fun waves before the sun goes down.”

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    Nice job saying ‘Mr.” Occy Stu. Mark was the one who addressed everyone by mr.

    Can’t you come up with your own style? Or are you once again planting little seeds to bait Mark back onto Post Surf?

    I wish Lewis would ban you. I bet you don’t even surf very often.

  • Average Guy says:

    Well look what da cat drug in. Yes surfing IS the sport of kings my friend but too bad it has been taken over by foul mouthed gutter trash like yourself.

    I have been monitering this site for awhile and, while you are pretty funny, it is obvious that you have no clue as to the true beauty of the sport. Blashemy Rottmouth makes me ashamed to say that I am a surfer.

  • iamJOB says:

    Neither Occy nor GT is gay. The jury’s still out on Luke Stedman and Kalani Robb.

    And ’scuse me if I’m wrong, but weren’t Archy and the brothers Fletcher doing the whole ‘painted-board and rebellious photo-pro’ thing around the same time? Where the fuck is Echo Beach, for that matter? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!

  • Your Mom says:

    @ Average Guy

    Who are you? Where did you come from? I too have been monitering this site and have never seen you post. I realize I’m not that creative, which is why I let BS do his thing. You’re right, he’s funny. Stop overanalysing this shit and enjoy

  • Black's Slacks says:

    I am an average surfer. I work 50 hours a week. I like waves. AG is right…Lewis should be writing about ME and photos should following ME around and sponsors should give ME cash to dress in the retro neon!!! Free clothes, free chix, free money…I WANT IT!!! Just because I can’t nail the “air reverse,” or the “fins-free rocknroll boardslide floater” or the “tube ride” or the “turn” doesn’t mean I shouldn’t have my own feature segment on Surfline. You should all want to watch me…I can be a douchebag too! Check me on Twitter, ya pricks!

  • Curious says:

    @ Your Mom

    Who is BS? Do you mean BR or LS?

  • Old Kook says:

    Can we just get an “in-depth” expose on the blonde from Fuel who’s holding the mic? That would alleviate all the hatred…..really, it would.

  • ReB says:

    Lewis, I think you should make a surf movie with CG Hobgood or somebody. That way, there will be at least one good surfer in it.

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    For Average Guy,

    One sunny afternoon, the sweat still caked to his brow after slaving in the steel mill for twenty-three hours, Joe crested the pass on PCH and saw his most favoritest thing in the world: 2-3 foot windblown chop gurgling about a pier that was packed with two-hundred and seventy-four of his closest buds. “Oh, how positive!” he surmised.

    After pulling on his rash guard, he paddled his trusty thruster through the various used condoms, upturned flounders, and Ralph’s grocery bags that littered the inside break. Once plowing through the final wave of the two-wave set, he made it outside; where he was promptly serenaded with a healthy shower of stink-eyes and expletives that even I, pious as my lily-white soul is, cannot utter here.

    After thirty minutes of bobbing like a buoy, Joe grasps his lone opportunity and swings for a macking two and a half footer. Joe effortlessly pushes to his knees, wobbles slightly, and finally reaches his feet. Upon gazing at the mellow whitewater that laps at his ankles, Joseph H. Smith looks heavenward and blesses the great Huey for this opportunity. As the wave nears the inevitable shorebreak closeout, Joe grabs his ankles and dips his head into that brief almond’s eye before pitching onto the dry sand in a clump of euphoric blubbering flesh.

    Satisfied with his thoroughly positive experience, Joe returns to his ’84 Datsun, utters a brief curse upon witnessing the slashed tires and recovers with an uplifting impromptu solo rendition of ‘Cumabaya.’ Once the tires are secured with a few wraps of ducttape, Joe begins the forty-five minute slog through the congested freeways to meet his overweight wife and four screaming children.

    “The silver lining,” he thinks silently, “is that maybe this will be the first night my wife actually gives me sex since last Halloween.”

    And all is well with Joe Smith – Average Guy.

    (Geeze, I can’t believe this average guy experience hasn’t been turned into a successful blog yet.)

    Brb…

  • Ballz says:

    Did you guys see Jessie from Dukes of Hazard talking about those guys, “GOING ORFFFFF”?

  • Ballz says:

    Watch his eyes when he says, “Going OFFFFF!” They’re as big as saucers!

  • Pobby Brown says:

    Schroffs, Stussys and Wave Tools . . .Oh my!

  • lazer says:

    Blasphemy Rottmouth: I would read that blog. But only if you went in-depth about the overweight-wife sex part.

  • yoyosteph says:

    RUMOR HAS IT - SURFTECH is clearing out the warehouse and all non critcal jobs at the end of the quarter (6/30).

    http://economy.freedomblogging.com/2009/surftech.05.12

    Following the path of Quiksilver…..

  • JimG says:

    Newport sucks: closed out & blown out most of the time. One of the worst waves in So. Cal.

  • JimG says:

    That surfing looked about as progressive as Russell(Jesse Duke) & Lance’s current shapes.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    Lewis - as long as companies are peddling clothes, then sponsoring surfers with style will be more important than explicit skill expressed on the world tour. It all changed when surfing progressed to the point of being more about athleticism. The types of people, in my observation, that excel in the new surfing form are not necessarily the types of people who think about how they looking doing it, and further, who want to be in their own world of music, fashion, etc. You know, the things kids find “cool”. Surfing is not NASCAR, or at least not for a whole segment of surfers out there, and there is a whole generation of young people who want to be part of something different. The Alex references get old. I guess there is this whole surf industry contingent that wants to keep us in the 90s, when it was all hi-8 vids, poser punk music, and macho attitudes. You know, in other words, the jocks.

  • Lewis, I would seriously suck your cock if you asked me to. You are SOOOO not jockish! And you’re an asshole, just like me! Seriously, your place or mine? I have plenty of lube.

  • yoyosteph, your link goes nowhere you dumb bitch.

    Lewis, why are you in bed with Lee Crane? Granted you haven’t posted a link to his google news/board site, but that dude seems down with you, prison style.

  • Bob Dobb says:

    “Irony:

    This is the Sport of Kings”!!!!!!!!

    And unfortunately, those Ec-ho beach guys are held fully responsible for turning it into the Sport of Queens.

    You may try to hide it. Or manipulate the history a bit,…

    But you will Live with it, girls. Live Forever.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    iamJOB: the Fletchers were doing their thing in ‘88, ‘89. The Newport scene was a weird amalgam of Socal beach culture meets skateboarding and punk rock in about ‘81-’83ish. It was about the Pipeline and Skate Ranch skateparks, Rodney on the Roq (KROQ), Ramones, Reagan and the Russians…I could go on. Newport was a weird scene of gothic weirdos, combat boots, and surfers with mohawks and checkers on their shred sleds. I am pretty sure it could not have happened any place else than Newport and Venice beach. The fact it changed the look of surfing was probably a good thing, for the industry at least, except for the 90’s went by and nobody around there woke up to the fact that things kept moving forward, and that Social D at that point sucked Big D. So yeah, RVCA probably did take a lesson from that era, and it is probably the reason Alex is sponsored. I think that is pretty cool myself.

  • Bob Dobb says:

    History.

    An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools.

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    When are we gonna here about the Sebastion Inlet crew of Holeman,Kech,Reineke etc. that spawned superman Slater?

    Once again we have a west coast-Hawaii slant on Post Surf just like in the regular surf media.

    Those kooks in Newport would get whupped if they showed up at Ponce.

  • JOB says:

    Uh, there are no waves in the land of Uz.

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    Oh yeah Shreddy gobbles Knost goo.

  • Steve JOBs says:

    No waves in the Silicon Valley either, but I totally rule!

  • JOB says:

    hey, who killed all my kids?

  • JOB says:

    Holy Cow! Never mind, I’ve all of a sudden got 7 sons and 3 daughters!

  • 3to5setsof7 says:

    Yeah I went down to zooport and hung out for a few weeks during those days. Not sure what all the fuss was about, but I dug my new sperry topsiders and pink plaid gothca shorts.

  • Lewis S, your killing it. Positive or not, your keeping it moving.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    SmyrnaJeff- yeah, I guess blogs are for slingin’ poopoo, but c’mon…Smyrna? For real? And by the way, Knost slays mad girls which is why all you are so angry and feeling left behind. As for you, you probably have Billabong ads of shirtless-AI images above your bed. Whose gay?

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    By his own words, Alex Knost has never had a “girlfriend”; just anal life support units he uses to jack himself off with.

  • stu says:

    Whose gay what?

  • lazer says:

    Shreddy you’re regressing, your true 909er roots are starting to show…

    Pull it together son.

  • RuneScapetwitterboys says:

    The only thing AL slays are some mules while playing online MMORPG sites.

    And that band he’s in sounds like horse.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    Lazer- your cosmic bald head is beginning to show. I am the true Lazer and I will destroy you.

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    The sad thing is, Newport’s always had to play the second fiddle in terms of rebellion. Echo Beach was Venice Beach light in the early eighties. That’s where whitebread ninnies could go to feel safe, but still express rebellion by copping their style from peacocks. Trustafarians glomming onto the Venice street scene. In the late 80’s, their neighbor, Huntington Beach, threw a full fledged riot at the OP Pro. In the nineties, they unfurled the shame of Mark McGrath and the Sugar Rays upon our defenseless society.

    But hey, they’re having the last laugh now; as everyone else’s trying to make a dime in this upside down economy, they’re patiently waiting for their mommies and daddies to croak so they can assume command of their inherited luxurious lifestyle.

  • lazer says:

    You know, it’s actually interesting how closely you’ve copied my tendencies regarding grammar and sentence structure. I read a few of your posts; you’re talented and I’m flattered by the imitation, but stick to being Shreddy or I’ll verbally cock-whip your copying ass.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    BR - Yeah, that’s right. The only punks lived in LA. Everywhere else, nobody knew what was up. Right? Pull your head out of your ass! OC might be a bunch of rich kids now, but so is LA! It was all hot, smoggy, socal in the 70s and early 80s. We were all suburbanites, living in houses built in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. Some were rich, some were poor, but kids all over the coast and valley liked the same things and were raised by parents who were largely radicals, ex-hippies, and surfers. I see what’s going on here. A bunch of industry people who want to write history THEIR way to prop up THEIR brands. Why don’t you leeches try to do something else to earn a buck and just surf??? Or stop trying to get large off of making other people look small. And about the 909, The Misunderstood, one of the best bands ever, early proto-punk, were from the 909. Blue Cheer of socal. You want to talk Cali history? Bring it bitch!!!

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    Funny, I had no idea that Newport Beach was in the 909. Guess I’ll have to ‘bring it’ better next time.

    Shreddy please don’t get yourself into a shithole your can’t climb out of.

  • Mike Balzitch says:

    If I’m not mistaken, Echo Beach is four miles south of hell.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    BR - Your name sounds like an OC punk band

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    @Shreddy

    Yes, of course, Newport Beach had some cute little rebellious moments by surfing standards. I still fail to recall a time when any beach community was considered ‘poor’ by national standards. But yea, if everything’s relative, the ‘Newport Ghetto’ is a pretty poor and scary place. There, does that make you feel better? You win. I didn’t mean to leave you with a wet lacey OC thong.

    I just find the comparison of Echo Beach in the movie to Dogtown rather amusing.

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    And Shreddy,

    I’m not from LA or OC. I’m from OG.

    My ninja name is Poon-Tang Choo.

    I’m a lover and a killer. And I love my kill. In other words, I put the “feel’ in necrophiliac.

    I’m compassionate. Who was the one who provided the federal government with the ‘stimulus package’? That was me; by lowering my cock through the oculus in the Senate Dome and gently stirring its moist purple tip until every member had been churned into succulent little cubes of margarine.

    But above all, I’m the Sultan of Shred. I ride boards forged from bear-traps and waxed with death and discourse. I am the only true waterman - in the mold of Scott Pederson. I ride waves like OJ cuts throats. And I paddle like a deranged BDSM practitioner on a plush derriere.

    Any other questions about my being should be directed to my attorney, Mr. Obadiah C. Thunderknuckle.

    Thank you,

    Good night and good luck.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    BR- Yeah I got myself a little worked up there. There’s always an underground, then what you see in the magazine and they’re rarely the same thing. Same as “Echo Beach”. One thing is for certain, Black Flag is one of the best bands ever, and they’re from LA. Their riffs turn everyone on this blog including myself into dust.

  • Shreddy Roosevelt says:

    …oh and about Dogtown…that was clever marketing by Stecyck. There were “Dogtowns” all over the state: Santa Cruz, San Jose, The IE, The OC…still gotta stick to my guns on that one. Guys who were getting airs in pools at the same time. It’s the guys with the photogs and writers that get written into history. You probably know that though.

  • Occy's Mum says:

    Would you two please shut the fuck up. Damn.

  • Bob Dobb says:

    Look no further than the threads those Ec-ho beach fools were rocking back in the day.

    Would anyone here admit they actually wore that shite? Would you actually go on a nationwide film tour with thatstuff dragged out of your closet and on display for everyone to riduclue?

    What was up with that back in the day-glo era? Did these fools worked for the Circus Varg-ass at night or something?

    These punters the Zoo in Zooport. The sets in closets.

  • Hazard County says:

    Funny how there are a number of self congratulating flicks out there. I would add the Archy movie to the list of unworthy as well. So he kills off the wall. I wasn’t really interested in the other 1.25 hours about his middle school deviance amidst San Clemente closeouts. No, his life really wasn’t that compelling.

    Many worthy surfers are left on the back-burner while these self proclamating faux films push try another false messiah as the real Mcoy. It would be great to see someone put something together about real legends like Curren- if someone could get him to talk, or Ben Aipa (sans narrators Sam George/Stacy Peralta). I guess its all just entertainment. At the end of Dogtown Peralta had you thinking that these guys built Rome in a day.

    The world won’t change in a day so in the meantime I’ll just do my best to enjoy what is likely to come:

    Jon Jon; Hawaiian legend
    The Alex Knost Bi-Epic
    The Jaime Obrien Story- Elegance meets Eloquence

  • Day-glosuckedthenanditsucksnow. says:

    even Lady Sovereign would kick their arse.

  • Bob Dobb says:

    Eddie wouldn’t day-glo.

  • yourmothersgotapenis says:

    in ten years or so, the very same thing will happen to Goldie Looking Chain. ‘cept these blokes already know they are a parody of themselves.

    something the Echo Beach punters were lacking.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZTLVJSlNw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SAYlRf_6bQ&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=botnsA3KOWI

  • Eddie Wrathman says:

    Just stumbled upon the website, and immediately thought that this is something the commentors on this board would enjoy http://www.awkwardfamilyphotos.com

    More specifically, this photo

    http://awkwardfamilyphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/weirdest-family-photo-ever-probably-nsfw.jpg?w=415&h=482

  • Richbzztch says:

    You barnicles know Mark was just fffing with y’all(dirty south verbal) don’t you? Hope so at least. The Tahitian Master H. Williams only has one Resin whatever 6′0″ Tokoro? Best shit I have heard in a long time on the net. Full on Island style shredder. Hope he continues “the year of the wildcard” trend and crushes Parko.

  • Eddie says:

    that was the gayest surf movie trailer i’ve ever seen. and wtf if with nobody using real names but commenting like a-holes on this blog. my name is eddie daroza and im from santa cruz.

  • Eddie says:

    and if you want to talk about dogtowns… my dad, Ed DaRoza, built skatepark soquel in santa cruz and you should see the footage of guys like tony roberts and kevin reed blowing up before dogtown was even a phrase

  • Bob Dobb says:

    No Eddie. We just want to burn the snot out of these Eck-Ho beach fruits, ad nauseam.

    As Lewis points out so well in todays post, they bloody well deserve it!

  • Mike says:

    Wow.

    Newport Beach enjoyed a brief period where it was the epicenter of progressive surfing in California. Freshly constructed jetties created insane waves at every street in a very competitive ghetto. Unassailable.

    Eventually the jetties did their job, trapping sand and the whole strip is now a pale reminder of that era. But that era was special. They created the 80’s that todays kids will suck into once the 70’s fascination wanes.

    Strip the bullshit and you have a neighborhood of good surfers on fresh equipment ( twins ) blowing up on crowded beaches with super good surf. Really good surf.

    We can clown the guys now, but they were another example of a petri dish exploding something new each day.

    I only wish any current generation was distinguishing such an individual bend. Only crew close is the Pipe pack, but they’re riding standard issue.

    For history’s sake, the echo run was drowned by the Tri fin and better surfing. Credit should be noted that everyone switched quickly. No one was looking back in that time. We wanted to surf better, period.

    Fuck Retro. Embrace growth.

  • Mike says:

    Oh, and all you San Francisco fags hadn’t yet discovered surfing, OB was empty and Clark surfed alone… or so we’ve heard.

    Going through stupidity the first time is actually progressive….. a surf fashion dictated upon a cliche is not.

    Shapers, start planing wide tail, no nose twins and become recession busters. The kids today can’t think for themselves and are prone to candy….. boards. Or advertising.

  • Someone says:

    Hey Eddie do you golf and Fish?

  • Someone says:

    Hi my name is Eddie Daroza and I am an alcoholic-ice addict. And I am from Santa Cruz which is a regular foot utopia filled with great fishing and golf.

    Oh yeah my daddy built a great skate park and Kevin Reed used to go there back when he had long hair with T.R. bro and all the BOYS.

    I’m cool because I use my real name and I am from S.C. BRO!

    Beat it Eddie. You are a fucking kook.

  • Blasphemy Rottmouth says:

    I’m offended that Eddie D. doesn’t think this is my real name.

  • jiggy jig says:

    “Echo Beach: The Birth of Corporate Ball Sucking”

    What a concept, What a film, What a beach.

    Can a big budget Hollywood communist society production Peralta/Ron Howard “extreme beach volleyball” film be far behind?

    “….born in the gettos of Malibu and the gangs of Pepperdine”

    I sure hope there is a big south swell marching towards Tahiti and it gets there soon.

    This shit was funny the first 400 times.

    Thanks for the hit to awkwardfamilyphotos though. That was worth half a laugh.

  • Eddie says:

    BR I think you’re fucking cool. and no somebody i dont play golf. fishing is really fun though. anyways….

  • Eddie says:

    And well put Bob Dobb

  • Eddie says:

    and what do you mean “when” he had long hair? sorry homeboy times havent changed that much

  • KevNYC says:

    Surfing is so self-indulgent in terms of the sheer number of surf films out there. Do these films make money? How many DVDs actually get sold? It’s one big circle jerk with the the audience being the surfers themselves. Are there as many skate or snowboard films out there?

  • Mike says:

    “born of the ghetto’s of Malibu and Pepperdine…” Classic Jig. “Extreme beach volleyball”

    I’ve wondered the same thing Kev….. considering production costs and financing and no significant theatre revenue…. Andrew Kidman rolled through town a few years back, did the whole release tour himself, probably made more money on the Surfer’s Journal article he wrote.

  • Gerald Ford says:

    So much farking whining about Corporate America and it stronghold on surfing. I think it is rather admirable that people are finding different ways to make money and be successful- whether it be skill or creative branding.*

    *This comment does not include Alex Knost. You are a joke

  • Betty Ford says:

    Good point, lovie.

    And don’t forget the drinkie poos, Gerry honey.

    At these cute little premiers with those lovely little surfer boys in their day-glo outfits, they always have the free schwag and cocktails. We are so all over that!

  • auspective says:

    Why do all these old dudes all of a sudden need to be heard(Rabbit, etc also). Good for you - you made some “mark”on surfing - fuck off back under the rock of obscurity and mid life crisis.
    I have the same questions KevNYC.

  • Betty Ford says:

    @auspective.

    It must be their anti depressants. Or alcohol.

    Or the combination of them both.

  • Stalin says:

    Fuck You Gerald Ford! Corporate America sucks my rotting balls!

  • Ballz says:

    I’ve got to agree about the older guys making documentaries about how important they were, how they revolutionized something or other and how we should all give a fuck. Go away. If you were important, we would know. The reason we don’t know is becuase you aren’t important. Now piss off.

  • GoleftSC says:

    That is the paradox of SoCal/OC…it wants to be the center of the universe, and if its not it feels an insecurity driven need to invent it. Its either that or there is a true delusion of being the father of all things surf world. Truthfully, most of those guys are donkey smokers, and they lucked into industry success as the wave picked them up and carried them along. Thats why every Newport guy without a college degree gets into the ‘Industry’. Everything Schroff was lame back then, even at the time, and there is a reason the 80’s were bad and faded into an embarrasing memory of keyboard neckties and mullets. Jeff Parker could barely surf, Danny Kwock busted a couple airs and claimed them, when Kevin Reed and Larry B had been doing them for years already. This of course explains why complete idiots like the George Brothers, former pros who can barely surf, were elevated to some mythic industry/sage status. We now…20 years later still have to listen to them preen their feathers and tell us how profound their insight is. This whole farce was narrated by Mark Mcgrath for crap sake!? Is there a bigger poser clown (albeit successful) alive? The whole thing is so ridiculous that it should simply be disregarded by anyone with any self respect and a brain in their head. Simply watch this reeking dump of a film, then watch Bustin Down the Door, and the truth will be obvious. There is a reason we still know who Rabbit and Shaun are.

  • Righto says:

    Well said!

  • Gerald Ford says:

    @Stalin.

    Counter-culture is so 1960s. The interweb even says so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-establishment

    I am also glad to see that my wife could make it today. I am confident that with a little bit of hobnobbing with Blair Marlin, we too could enjoy the free shwag provided by the good guys over at Surfline. Maybe even a free 60 day trial membership if we are lucky!

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    Wow. Kevin Reed has been mentioned 4 times in the past 2 days.

    Maybe someone should make a documentary on the Santa Cruz Lane Point crew of the late seventies-early eighties. You could do a lead in to the Vince Collier influence on Flea and his boys and the whole Mavericks deal.

    P.S. Props to Eddie on his mature, calm response to the hateful diatribe of “Someone”. You have potential Mr. Daroza. Welcome aboard.

  • Black's Slacks says:

    Um, Mr. Lewis, can you please focus your blog on Trolls who surf. You can start with the guy who wears the hood and gloves at Blacks and rides a 9′ rhino gun even when its 4 foot. He’s pretty creepy, like, when he burns me I don’t say anything because, like, maybe he eats brains and stuff.

  • MuckFark says:

    Contest is on. 1:45 start Pacific time.

  • Stu says:

    not even slater’s dad would care about this.

  • gator says:

    this reminds me of the whole “dogtown and z-boys” baloney. it’s like some old dude caught himself rubbing hemorrhoid cream on his butthole one day, and realising how incredibly un-cool and washed-up he had become, decided to call his other washed-up old fart buddies and make a movie to remind everyone just how cool they once were.

    “we are the F-ing gods of skateboarding! we invented cool! nevermind the fact that on the other side of the country, there was a group of guys who were way beyond us in talent and inventiveness who never got the notoriety we did because they didn’t feel the need to push their rebellious-sheik image on the world and sell it to twelve year old boys for profit. seriously, who the fuck is Ollie Gelfand and what the hell did he ever do for skateboarding? we were the ones who did mad drugs and got syphilis twice before we turned 18! bow down to our awesome awesomeness! oh, and buy our shit, cuz we’re all broke and totally not cool anymore”

    i just pray that nobody ever makes a surf-umentary about the Sebastian Inlet crew trying to make them look cool and totally innovative now that they’re all reaching the age of washed-upedness. “we did airs back when nobody was doing them! and by nobody we mean half the sunshine state, the north shore, and socal” i love the SI crew, but i seriously hope they’re smart enough to realize it’s not cool to whip your dick out on video and stroke it for 2 hours then try to sell it to twelve year old boys. totally not cool.

  • Stu says:

    it’s ok, gator. nobody cares about the SI boys - they weren’t as cool as you think they were.

  • Ballz says:

    It’s on.

    By the way, not to throw any more fuel on the fire, but there’s some video of GT and Occy from day 4. The following colloquy transpires:

    GT: What did you do yesterday?
    Occy: Yeah, I did a little cave swimming with Joel.
    GT: Did you find any sea creatures?
    Occy: We, ehhem, found a little eel.

    Honest to God. Listen for yourselves. By the way, GT seemed a little less douchey. I wonder if someone told him to tone it down. I was trying to think of a way to offer him constructive criticsm, but the best I could come up with is be less douchey.

  • Stu says:

    Ballz - word from WA is that Occy was caught red-eeled just before the Margs comp.

  • MuckFark says:

    Has anyone seen JOB’s twitters today?? Definitely a ghost “writer”. I find it very difficult to believe that JOB spends his morning what kind of throne to install in his living room and the afternoon contemplating Western society’s grasp on Islam.

    “The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.” …ummmmmm what the fuck are you talking about JOB?

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    Does Stu realize he is the biggest joke of all the commentators on Post Surf?

    I think he is still mad that JOB mentioned Mark, Mike and Blasphemy Rottmouth and not Stu during his trippy, druggy rant the other day.

    Are you a lonely guy Stu? Does no one like you? Judging from your comments the past 2 days it seems as if you miss having Mark to bash. 95% of your comments are negative to the point that it is obvious that you are a really mean guy.

    Anyway I am sure you will reply to this comment with another mean, hurtful one of your own and that you will include a subliminal message meant to piss Mark off enough to make him jump back into the mix.

    I don’t think it will work this time pal. I think Mark has finally gotten over this crap and moved on with his life.

  • SmyrnaJeff says:

    Oh yeah and one more thing. In honor of Mark, Stu would get EATEN ALIVE at Sebastion Inlet.

  • Mudo says:

    So I tuned into the contest for about 3 seconds. Long enough to hear 2 words from THE BIGGEST DOUCHE ever to grace the airwaves. Why would Billabong subject the surfing public to such a toolbag? Is there a good reason? If that guy paddled onto the peak at any one of your local peaks he would get stuffed so bad. Why would they put him on the air? WTF? He and Knost should start a blog together along with the fuck whit from Stab. Faggots! I fucking hate surfing now.

  • Stu says:

    He does and it doesn’t bother him a bit! Kissy kissy.

  • Robertson Darlingston says:

    Hum… those aussie boys are naughty!

  • 3to5setsof7 says:

    the only real difference between the dogtown dudes and the other factions of skateboarders pushing the limits was Craig Stecyk. He blew that shit up. Not that those guys weren’t talented, but let’s face it guys where ripping everywhere. Just like today. the only difference is every grom has got a video geek in his crew and even your momma has a you tube account.

    I like the bitter vibe here. Crusty!

  • Bob Dobb says:

    @Gator, if your entry is not deemed post of the month, we should all just eat our computers.

    and now.

  • Mike says:

    Hey Smyrna, what did JOB say about me? All I heard was Blasph’s name and never heard Marks either.

    And at what point to we claim what technology offers to narcissistls like JOB? Attention Fiend.

  • Scooberdee says:

    Alex Knost is a surf star…..?

  • That Annoying Guy says:

    100th Comment!

  • Growler says:

    I had to watch that video again today just to see that old dude so “Going Off” as his eyes almots pop out. Love it.

  • DONKEY says:

    You vuys are all waisting your time, go surf, I just stumbled across this from the Cool Lost Website and linked up, but I wish I did’nt…. Get in the water all u cyber freaks

  • magarnaL! says:

    SURF!!!This isnt MYSPACE! LOST pwnsU!!!!!!!!!!!!!h

  • gooch says:

    FLORIDA SUCKS STOP CLAIMING PONCE SHITHOLE INLET

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    You have a new fan! I love your stuff here and will be back again.

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